Stephen’s Posterous

Technology. Finance. Tidbits. 
Filed under

Commodities

 

Hedge Fund Bets On Hyperinflation

Hedge fund Universa Investments L.P. is planning to launch the Black Swan Protection Protocol-Inflation fund according to the Wall Street Journal. The fund is based on a premise of hyperflation as a result of the massive stimulus efforts of governments around the world.

Universa Investments is known for its connection to Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of the 2007 bestseller The Black Swan.

The Wall Street Journal said that Universa Investments is trying to capitalize on a wave of investor demand for its products. The fund will invest in options tied to commodities such as corn, crude oil and copper, as well as options on stocks such as oil drillers and gold miners. The fund will also bet against Treasury bonds.

FINalternatives said that the fund is the brainchild of Mark Spitznagel, a longtime collaborator of Taleb who owns and manages Universa. Mr. Taleb himself has no ownership stake in the Santa Monica, Calif.-based firm, but is a major investor and adviser.

There are risks involved when investing in this fund. Some believe that deflation may be much more or a risk than inflation. Others believe that inflation may not take hold for awhile. As written in the Wall Street Journal:

David Rosenberg, chief economist at Gluskin Sheff, a Toronto wealth-management firm, believes inflation won't take hold until consumer spending rebounds, which he thinks could take years. Says Mr. Rosenberg: "Not until the household sector expands its balance sheets are we likely to see the re-emergence of inflation on a sustained basis."

The minimum investment in the firm's other funds has been $25 million, but the company rarely accepts investments less than $100 million

Filed under  //   Black Swan Protection Protocol-Inflation   Commodities   David Rosenberg   Gluskin Sheff   Hyperinflation   Inflation   Mark Spitznagel   Nassim Nicholas Taleb   Oil   The Black Swan   Treasury Bonds   Universa Investments L.P.  

Comments [0]

Oil and Commodity Prices Rise

The Financial Times reported that oil prices rose above $60 a barrel for the first time in six months on May 12, 2009. Oil prices have jumped 85 percent from a five year low of $32 a barrel set in February 2009.

Other raw material prices also increased. Sugar rose to a three-year high. Wheat reached its highest price since January 2009. Tin hit a six-month peak.

The leading global commodity index, S&P GSCI, soared to its highest level since November 2008 and is up 20 per cent this year. The Financial Times article said that traders put the reason at China, which revealed a large increase in raw materials imports, reflecting in part the economic recovery but also Beijing’s attempt to take advantage of lower prices to stockpile commodities.

Iron ore and copper imports reached a record in April 2009, while crude oil imports hit their second-best month at the same time. Traders and bankers have reported a return of hedge fund money into the market and said big institutional investors such as pensions funds were making inquiries about commodities.

Corn prices hit a four-month high. However, Cocoa futures lost 3.9% as early speculative buying vanished and selling interest tied to falling demand gripped traders. Cocoa for nearby May delivery fell $96 to settle at $2,353 a metric ton on ICE Futures U.S. in New York as reported by the Wall Street Journal. Most-active July lost $93 to settle at $2,377 a ton.

The International Cocoa Organization on May 11, 2009, said demand for cocoa is expected to see its largest yearly decline in 50 years due to the global economic recession. U.S. cocoa import data drove that bearish point home, said Jack Scoville, analyst and vice president at Price Futures Group.

U.S. cocoa imports fell 30.6% in March 2009, from February, and were down 36.5% from one year ago, the Commerce Department said on May 12.  Global cocoa bean grindings, a demand signal, are expected to fall 6% in the year to September 2009, the ICCO said. Its previous forecast had estimated just a 2.1% fall. Despite waning demand, the ICCO still estimates a world cocoa deficit of 80,000 to 90,000 tons, as production declines.

Weather in top-grower Ivory Coast has been mostly beneficial for the crop, though concerns are beginning to mount over recent heavy rain and a lack of sunshine.

Filed under  //   China   Cocoa   Commodities   Copper   Iron Ore   Ivory Coast   Oil   Sugar  

Comments [0]

Commodities Have Little Correlation with Flows

Commodities Throw a Curveball by Liam Denning, WSJ.com

Despite big swings this week, oil prices have been stable, bobbing around the $50-a-barrel mark, plus or minus 10%. This is remarkable when you consider that fundamental supply and demand data have been bearish.

This month, the International Energy Agency raised the specter of early 1980s-style demand destruction. In terms of days of supply, commercial-oil inventories in the industrialized world are higher than in 1998, when crude crashed to $10.

Some take hope from the upward slope of the oil-futures curve, known as contango, interpreting it as indicating higher prices ahead. This view is misguided. Indeed, the extreme steepness of the current contango, with oil a year out trading 20% above the May 2009 contract, points to a more complex situation.

Energy economist Phil Verleger makes a robust case for the market impact of speculators, although not in the way you might think. Contrary to the widely held viewpoint that speculators were to blame for the spike in oil prices last year, movements in the price of oil and many other raw materials display virtually zero direct correlation with flows into and out of commodity funds.

This money, much of it passive, does, however, affect the shape of the forward curve. An upward-sloping curve is indicative of there being a surplus of oil relative to real demand. Funds buying oil futures push up forward prices, steepening the curve's upward slope.

For the traders selling the contracts to them, this presents an incentive to buy cheaper physical barrels and put them in storage for delivery at higher prices down the road, hence high inventories. This removes some oil from the market, putting a floor under spot prices. Supply cuts by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries help in this regard, too.

Relying on investor optimism and cartel cohesion to maintain stable prices even as global economic forecasts worsen, however, requires nerves of steel. If faith in peak oil crumbles further, or financing tightens again, lower demand for futures would reduce the steepness of the forward curve. That, in turn, would erode profits on the oil-carry trade, leading speculators to liquidate inventories, likely hammering prices.

Optimism regarding industrial metals rests on similarly fragile foundations. Bellwether copper is up 43% since late February 2009. This head fake comes courtesy of China cannily stockpiling inventories of raw materials like copper and iron ore even as demand contracts virtually everywhere else.

Stockpiling, however, isn't consumption. The surge in Chinese imports hasn't been matched by increases in industrial production, suggesting metals are going into warehouses, not factories. Oddly, despite the country's apparently insatiable demand for iron ore, big price cuts are expected this year. Like the oil overhang, when those inventories get "mined," prices will likely suffer, transforming the head fake into a major headache.

Source.

Filed under  //   China   Commodities   Copper   International Energy Agency   Iron Ore   Oil   Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries   Phil Verleger  

Comments [1]

Barron's Q&A with Derek Van Eck

Many commodities have had a nice run lately, including crude and copper, following a dreadful second half 2008. And Derek van Eck, a principal of New York money manager Van Eck Associates, sees more opportunities, thanks in no small part to demand from countries like China.

His firm oversees close to $10 billion, about $3.3 billion of which is spread across Van Eck Global Hard Assets (ticker: GHAAX) and separate accounts run under the same strategy.

Lead manager Van Eck, 44, still likes the outlook for copper, maintains that gold is an important hedge against inflation, and has become more bullish on agricultural commodities -- corn and soybeans, in particular. He also sees an improving long-term outlook for energy, driven by supply constraints.

The fund had a nasty 2008, losing nearly 45% versus the S&P North American Natural Resources Sector Index, off 42.8% in 2008.

But this year, the Hard Assets portfolio is up 9.91%, placing it in the top 22% of its Morningstar peer group of natural-resource funds. Its three- and five-year annual returns rank at the very top of the group. Barron's caught up with van Eck last week.

Barron's: Let's start with your view of commodities from 30,000 feet. Could you summarize some of the key issues?

Van Eck: We've been playing defense in the last several quarters, but now we are beginning to play some offense and see good opportunities. Commodities markets have changed. A year ago, some commodities were exploding in value. Oil was approaching $150 a barrel, and inflation was a major worry.

Central banks were tightening credit, trying to slow inflation. China had engaged in a building program ahead of the Olympics, and they were building inventories of distillate, which is an oil product, to ensure enough back-up power. Index speculators were considered villains, and Congress was investigating commodities markets. The credit debacle was just building.

Then, commodities endured one of the greatest, most violent corrections in history, especially in the second half of last year. The credit collapse caused demand to collapse. There was inventory liquidation in every corner of the global economy. In some cases, commodity prices declined even more than they did during the Great Depression. Crude oil fell 75% from its peak to trough. Copper dropped 70%.

How do things look now for commodities?

The general outlook is improving, due to both cyclical and structural factors. The red light, which had been flashing, is now gradually turning green in some markets.

On the cyclical side, there is evidence that China's growth troughed in the first quarter, and that it's likely to improve in coming quarters. In China, recent PMI [purchasing managers] data, electricity demand, real-estate transaction data and very strong loan and credit growth suggest a turnaround. And spending from government fiscal-stimulus programs is likely to continue.

In the OECD [Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development] countries, it appears that demand may be gradually stabilizing, thanks to the massive reflationary programs that have been instituted in various countries, including the U.S. This suggests an inventory-restocking cycle is ahead, increasing demand for commodities.

What about the credit crunch and its impact on commodities?

It abruptly slowed capital spending, resulting in a lack of supply growth in many commodity markets. On the structural side, there are issues of depletion and resource accessibility. For example, 60% to 70% of the world's oil reserves are inaccessible to international oil companies.

Could you elaborate on what you see ahead for crude and natural gas?

There is lots of oil, both offshore and in terms of broad inventory. A massive amount of inventory must be worked through in crude and natural gas. But positive factors are probably gradually going to start overwhelming negative factors.

One key factor to think about is depletion. Five to 5½ million barrels a day of oil need to be replenished annually, according to the International Energy Agency. So far, based on IEA estimates, energy demand is down about five million barrels a day from its [much higher] peak.

But in another year or so, it seems unlikely that you are going get more demand destruction of that magnitude. So at some point, depletion works in your favor, and at some point oil prices start heading higher, probably owing more to supply constraints than to demand. We are seeing very few signs to date of demand increases except for marginal increases in India and China.

What about the overall impact of the different government stimulus programs?

These are massive and unprecedented reflationary programs. While in the short term, markets continue to grapple with concerns about solvency and deleveraging, the market will increasingly get concerned about an inflationary time bomb. This should lead to an inflationary premium for commodities.

So you see commodity prices stabilizing, along with a good chance of price appreciation from here, even with the recent gains?

Yes, we do, although commodities have moved a little bit ahead of their fundamentals. There are large inventory builds to work through, including those in crude oil and natural gas. In other markets, there is the potential of declining inventories. The biggest surprise in commodity markets this year has been copper, which is up roughly 50% year-to-date, mostly because of demand from China.

Are you still bullish on copper?

We think it's sustainable at these prices. That's a very out-of-consensus view. Most market participants would say prices are more likely to decline, but our view is that copper could hang around $2 a pound. Of course, that's not cheap anymore, and it's discounting most of the factors that have led to the price appreciation. It is hard to see a lot of upside, but it's more sustainable than many think.

Looking at agricultural commodities, there are some big losses over the last year, including wheat, down 43%, and corn, which has lost roughly one-third of its value.

The surprise on the agricultural side was the depth of demand destruction that took place in various markets like the feed market or the ethanol market.

Is that because people are eating less?

No, I don't think that is much of a factor. Agricultural commodities are typically much less cyclical than, say, copper is. But there were some surprisingly poor demand numbers for agricultural commodities. Today, though, we are more positively orientated toward these commodities. There is probably 10% to 15% upside, based on less supply.

Is that across the board for agricultural commodities?

We are probably most optimistic on corn, and we are reasonably positive on soybeans for the short term. It becomes a weather bet, and then other factors come into the equation. China is aggressively stocking up on agricultural commodities, including corn and soybeans. So that's been a positive factor.

What's your assessment of emerging markets, which have had a strong start this year?

Emerging markets are going to lead the global economy for the next five years. It is not going to be the United States. It is not going to be Europe. Many emerging-market countries are very commodity intensive. They've got reasonably healthy banking systems, depending on where you are talking about, and you have got very strong stimuli from various players, including the Chinese government.

Are you concerned that this recent rally in the stock market could be a head-fake?

Absolutely. There is clearly a risk of that, and we are very aware that you need a healthy banking system globally to have strong, sustainable global growth. There is no doubt in our minds that the banking system still has holes that need to be filled.

The banking sector needs, depending on which estimate you use, $200 billion to almost $1 trillion of additional capital. Some of these programs sponsored by the U.S. Treasury, the FDIC [Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.] and others have to work. If they don't, you don't have sustainable growth in the OECD countries, and there would still be risk in the commodity markets.

Moving on, what's your outlook for gold?

Gold is off roughly 10% from its high, which was about $1,000 per ounce about a year ago. Now, gold is caught in a vise. The U.S. banking system is still in pretty poor health, and the consumer is probably overleveraged. So you have a deflationary, deleveraging story, which is probably acting as an overhang on gold. Offsetting that is quantitative easing virtually everywhere in the world. So there is free money being printed in the U.S. and the U.K.

Which is the better scenario for gold?

The upside case for gold is more of an inflationary environment. I don't think anyone thinks inflation is a problem today, but a growing number of people think inflation is going to be a problem two to three years down the road. We are in that camp.

Gold typically trades in long cycles, up or down. Are we still in a secular up-cycle?

Yes, we think that's the case. Gold is taking a healthy pause right now; it needs to consolidate. There was a lot of fast money in gold when it came to the sovereign concerns [a few months ago]. Some of that fast money is now out of gold, which is a healthy phenomenon. But gold is increasingly accepted as its own asset class and as a separate currency. We [see gold hitting] new highs, over the next year or two, of around $1,500 an ounce.

Right now, you see more value in gold miners versus gold exposure via the GLD exchange-traded fund. Do any come to mind?

One is Randgold Resources [ticker: GOLD], a mid-tier gold producer focused on West Africa. The company is headed by D. Mark Bristow, a geologist who knows African geology and politics. They have developed two major mines in Mali, and have two more exciting development projects in the pipeline.

What sets them apart from their peers is their uncanny ability to grow organically and to find gold deposits through exploration and drilling, rather than overpaying for somebody else's discovery. The stock trades at $670 per ounce of reserves, roughly a 25% discount to gold.

What's an example of how you are playing alternative energy, another sector you like?

We're investing right now in what we call the transmission smart grid. That is the first stage of the potential growth of alternative energy. Today, the grid is very old, decrepit and inefficient; we lose roughly 10% of the power that's produced through old lines installed over the last 50 years.

The smart grid will lead to other alternative technology, such as solar power and wind, so transmission will be a growth area. We estimate it will grow 15% to 20% annually for the next several years.

Is there a company that fits that theme?

One is Quanta Services [PWR]. The consensus has it growing earnings next year by 30%, but we think they are going to win some awards for transmission infrastructure work to make that higher than 30%. You are paying a reasonable multiple for that kind of growth.

The stock trades at around 17 times the $1.30 analysts expect the company to earn next year. But we think there is great upside. More transmission awards and policy initiatives are expected, and a $10 billion dollar project announced by FERC [the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission] could possibly provide an opportunity for Quanta in the future.

This is an example of a company that is probably a little lost in the noise of the market today, with various participants talking about financial Armageddon.

How have you constructed your portfolio lately?

In the last quarter, we've been getting more aggressive and we've actually been putting money to work in more cyclical names, but we also have a lot of companies we consider to be solid growers with clean balance sheets and great assets that can grow their reserves.

What about an example?

Noble Energy [NBL], an independent exploration-and-production company, is a top holding in our portfolios. It has assets in the United States, and offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. It also has assets in Israel and Africa.

We believe Noble's reserves will grow sharply over the next three to five years. Noble has a clean balance sheet, and continually has a higher return on capital than its peers do. So the company has reserve growth, and production growth over time. We don't have to worry about debt, in case things deteriorate considerably from here.

Let's hear about one more pick.

Mariner Energy [ME], another E&P company. It is a neglected, misunderstood story. It combines top-quartile production growth with a very cheap valuation. Production growth should be approximately 15% to 30% this year, and we expect it to increase by 10% next year. The stock trades at 1.4 times '09 cash flow and 3.2 times [earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization], well below its peers. That's based on crude being at $45 a barrel, compared with around $50 recently.

The investment opportunity comes from the market's perception of this company as a high-cost, high-decline-rate Gulf of Mexico shelf operator. In reality, the company has a better reserve-life profile than many onshore operators, and it has had good success in its deepwater operations.

Thanks, Derek.

Source.

Filed under  //   Commodities   Copper   Corn   Derek van Eck   Emerging Markets   Gold   International Energy Agency   Mariner Energy   Noble Energy   OECD   Oil   Quanta Services   Randgold Resources   S&P North American Natural Resources Sector Index   Soybeans   US Treasury   Van Eck Associates   Van Eck Global Hard Assets  

Comments [0]

Commodity Rally May Not Be Sustainable

It has been a great week for commodities. But has the price rally got ahead of itself? Although demand has improved relative to the dismal conditions of late last year, analysts and traders warn that conditions have yet to perk up sufficiently to warrant an across the board price rally beyond current levels.

“The market is ignoring near-term bearish fundamentals,” says Adam Robinson, director of commodities at Armored Wolf, a California hedge fund. The poor prospects have not discouraged investors, fearful that the Federal Reserve’s action to buy US government debt will stoke growth at the cost of higher inflation.

Some banks are also beginning to see value in the asset class. Goldman Sachs, Wall Street’s largest commodities dealer, on Friday increased its recommended allocation for commodities to “neutral” from “underweight”.

The benchmark S&P GSCI index rose 8 per cent this week. Some commodities gained more than 10 per cent. That strong performance has brought talk among investors about a revival of the asset class, after the carnage of last year. Money flows, particularly exchange traded funds, have picked up. Most analysts are less enthusiastic than investors.

James Steel, a commodities analyst at HSBC in New York, says given that the genesis of the wider commodity rally appears to be the shift in policy by the Federal Reserve and not a sudden change in underlying supply and demand balances, “it is unclear whether higher commodity prices can be sustained.”

Barclays Capital says that a fall in freight costs, a steep decline in Chinese domestic steel prices, both good indicators of industrial activity and commodities demand, and the steady increase in inventories in some raw materials “all suggest fundamental conditions in several markets are still very weak and price recoveries [would] likely prove fragile.”

Goldman warns that it would need to “see demand stabilise before going overweight” in commodities.

Some analysts, such as Daniel P. Ahn, director of macroeconomic research at Louis Capital Markets in New York, question how much central bank quantitative easing, in which central banks inject large amounts of cash into the system in an attempt to bring down long-term interest rates, by itself will help stimulate demand.

“Japan’s example in the 1990s, though not a perfect analogy, shows how massive quantitative easing can co-exist with continued deflation in the absence of structural reforms and proper fiscal stimuli,” Mr Ahn says.

Even if the world’s central banks are successful in quick-starting the economy, it will be months, probably a year, before a pick-up in activity lifts demand for commodities and drags inventories down.

There are some bright spots. Commodities producers’ output cuts, such as by Opec in the oil market, have been in place for long enough and represent a sufficient amount of production to begin to offset demand destruction. This is supporting prices. Merrill Lynch and JPMorgan on Friday raised their oil forecasts for the second half of the year.

“Against our initial expectations, Opec production cutbacks have been very significant,” says Francisco Blanch, commodities strategist at Merrill Lynch.

Other supportive factors for commodities are the Chinese and US fiscal stimulus programmes, which involve large outlays on infrastructure. There are limiting factors. Oddly the pick up in prices is the critical one. Higher prices could lure some producers, from Opec countries to miners, to bring back output capacity even if final demand has yet to recover, opening the door for oversupply and lower prices.

The cycle of higher prices leading to more output and eventually to lower prices is exactly what has happened in the steel sector in China, where a rebound in prices in January, due to traders stockpiling, prompted steel makers to bring back production capacity. As soon as the stockpiling ended, it became clear that final demand was not there and prices fell sharply again.

The influence of speculative money is also likely to be smaller than last year, potentially capping the rally. Hedge funds, for example, have far less firepower than last year as the credit crunch has reduced their capacity to leverage. Regulators appear ready to intervene in the commodities market if they perceive that speculators are driving raw materials prices higher, particularly if oil and food prices are being pushed up.

One way to avoid getting caught out, say analysts, is to pick commodities with supportive fundamentals such as sugar and corn and avoid those with poor ones, base metals and natural gas are typically blacklisted, while also avoiding baskets of raw materials that mix good and bad picks together. The market is divided about the prospects for oil.

Some commodity hedge funds are betting on relative value strategies, gambling that the price of forward contracts, such as for delivery in 2010 and later, will increase relative to spot prices.

The question for investors is whether the economy is strong enough in the short-term to justify the gains. The International Monetary Fund, which forecast that economic growth would fall this year for the first time in 60 years, has a clear view. “Commodity prices are unlikely to recover while global activity is slowing,” it says.

Source.

Filed under  //   Adam Robinson   Armored Wolf   Barclays Capital   Commodities   Daniel P. Ahn   Francisco Blanch   Goldman Sachs Group   HSBC   International Monetary Fund   James Steel   Louis Capital Markets   OPEC  

Comments [0]

Commodities Prices May Stay Depressed for Years

Commodities prices could remain at their current depressed levels for up to seven years as the global recession hits demand, according to Michael Farmer, founder of hedge fund Red Kite, one of the most closely watched figures in the base metals market.

Mr Farmer, who used to run MG, then the world's biggest copper trader, runs Red Kite, which consists of five hedge funds with $1bn under management that are among the biggest investors in metals.

"If one believes the recession's going to last for some time, then I think commodity prices will remain low for quite a long time, it might be five, six, seven years," he told the Financial Times in rare public comments.

"We have gone from boom to bust and I think we [the markets] are going to be bust for a little while."

This marks a sharp reversal from his views a year ago, at a time when Red Kite was riding booming prices in industrial metals and when he told Bloomberg that a new "industrial revolution" meant "the world has to learn to value [raw materials] more highly".

Mr Farmer and David Lilley, co-founders of Red Kite manager RK Capital, are known as the "God squad" in metals markets for their evangelical Christianity, although their religious fervour has not damped their trading success. Last year Red Kite Metals, the main fund, was up almost 20 per cent, investors said, while two smaller funds were up 64 and just over 30 per cent.

Two funds launched in the summer, one investing in China and the other providing mezzanine finance to miners, rose 6-7 per cent, while another fund is planned. Red Kite is closely followed by metals investors as it often takes big bets, including a highly geared position in copper which helped its main fund make 188 per cent in 2006 - before falling by half as the copper price tumbled the following year.

Mr Farmer said investors should expect both the commodities markets and Red Kite's funds to be far less volatile in the future, as "warehouses full of metal" damp price moves. Base metals inventories at London Metals Exchange warehouses have soared in the last three months as demand, particularly in Europe and the US but lately also in Asia, has plunged far faster than producers have cut supply.

Aluminium stocks are at a record high of 2.84m tonnes while copper stocks have zoomed to 495,000 tonnes, the highest level since late 2003. Nickel stocks are the highest since at least 1998. Red Kite did very well from its 2006 copper bets, according to accounts filed last week in the UK - although the firm suffered a small fine for missing a Companies House deadline.

The accounts show RK Capital - which then had just two partners, Mr Farmer and Mr Lilley - more than doubled profits to £56.5m in the year to March 2007, with the highest paid partner earning £34.6m. In the 12 months to March last year profits plunged to £14.3m, with the highest-paid partner taking home £8.7m.

Source.

Filed under  //   Aluminium   China   Commodities   Hedge Funds   Investing   Michael Farm   Raw Materials   Red Kite   RK Capital  

Comments [0]

Barron's Online Q&A with Zach Jonson

Basic materials has been a treacherous stock sector as of late after the bloom came off the multiyear rally in commodities. Witness the 47.8% plunge at ICON Materials Fund (ticker: ICBMX) for 2008. But even with that precipitous dive, the fund is ranked by Lipper as the top basic-materials fund for five-year returns.

The future could be much brighter for the sector as well. ICON Materials fund manager and quant-analyst Zach Jonson sees 20% to 25% of upside for basic-materials stocks in 2009 alone. He expects the steel subsector to grow 30% with one company rising as much as a whopping 50%.

Barrons.com: Does the Obama administration change your outlook for the year or not, based on your methodology?

Jonson: I use a quantitative-value-based industry rotation methodology. So being that we are quantitative, that is going to be reflected in our model instantaneously, in the underlying valuations. But we are not going to make any guesstimates about what the new administration is going to be doing.

Currently within the materials sector, using that quantitative methodology, we see about 20% to 25% of upside moving forward [for 2009]; that isn't really a stagnant number, it is going to move over time. If we see spreads narrow within the marketplace within yields out there, we might actually see more value come to fruition.

Q: What industries in materials are you seeing as leaders right now, and what are your favorite stocks in there?

A: Steel is going to be the first one that I'm going to highlight. Currently we see steel has about a 30% upside, so it is a little bit higher than the sector average. Specifically we are going after some of the larger-cap names within that, for example, U.S. Steel (X). We see a downgrade in near-term earnings per share, but their long-term rate still is maintaining over 10% growth. U.S. Steel we actually see conceivably 50% upside.

Q: The typical steel-sector darling is Nucor (NUE). But you see U.S. Steel as having more of an upside play?

A: Correct. We have not seen as much value in that name, but we still see upside in that name. I still have a holding in Nucor, but I'm not quite as bullish on it; I haven't overweighted it nearly as much.

Q: What else are you seeing as leading subsectors?

A: Fertilizers and agricultural chemicals have been a big holding of the materials fund for quite some time. It is, on an absolute basis, the largest percentage holding within the [materials] sector and makes up just over 22% of the portfolio. Names in that include Monsanto (MON), Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan (POT) and Syngenta (SYT), and we've held a pretty big allocation in those for quite some time.

Those earnings estimates have looked very solid going forward; they're actually not taking as big of a hit as the majority of industries out there in the whole domestic universe, not to mention materials. We are seeing their earnings grow going forward. Potash actually came out with an excellent earnings report, and we are seeing approximately 20% of upside within that industry.

Q: Do you see Monsanto having as much upside as U.S. Steel?

A: Monsanto no; actually we don't at this point. Historically we have. We have seen Monsanto have one of the highest upside potential. But currently it is a little bit less. But on a relative basis, as I mentioned, we do have a higher overweight in U.S. Steel than we do in Monsanto as far as portfolio construction goes. Monsanto is approximately 15% of the benchmark, so it is a huge name in that benchmark. We do like both names, and we see approximately 15% to 20% of upside within Monsanto as well. When we dive down on these individuals, we kind of mask a little bit of what we do -- which is, we look at the overall industry basis. So when I'm talking about steel and fertilizers and agricultural chemicals, we're taking a look at how to allocate money within that on the industry basis. When we are looking, we take an overweight position in both fertilizers and steel -- in doing that, we are definitely taking our bets there.

Q: Are you still adding to Dow Chemical (DOW) and DuPont (DD) positions?

A: No, we are basically holding those at where they are. Dow and DuPont we basically hold about equal to the benchmark. I think we are a little underweight within DuPont. But diversified chemicals is not an area that we are looking to add at this time.

Q: Can you tell me what industries and names you've been trimming your positions on?

A: We did trim a little bit in commodity chemicals, specifically in Spartech (SEH). And in diversified chemicals, PPG Industries (PPG); we've trimmed back in that as well.

Q: Thanks for your time.

SourceSubscribe to Barron's. ICON Materials Fund.

Filed under  //   Basic Materials   Commodities   Dow   DuPont   ICON Materials Fund   Monsanto   Nucor   Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan   Syngenta   U.S. Steel   Zach Jonson  

Comments [0]